Right or wrong.... - Page 16

if you beleive that evil will win the war, yes. and that is absurd. i dont.
i beleive by removing right and wrong we will be free. free. that means alot now. doesnt it.

Evil will not win the war justifed murderers will. You do not beleive in good and evil so do not use them in your arguement.
Freedom cannot exist without some limitations because if we are all free then I can kill you but then you would not be free.

i beleive mine and ethereal's conversation is important to this thread. this part particularly.


But you do not believe that there are good hands out there. Just blood thirsty hands with an excuse.

8:14:57 pm - September 27th
"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

awakendwrai... : : 17yrs


wait. when did i say that?

i believ that there are very few blood thirsty people in this world. very, very few.

Based on what? have you not seen the crime rate? People commit crimes because they think they are right. Making crimes legal will not make them go away.

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wait. when did i say that?

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"a branding of right and wrong meen nothing at all. nothing. just an opinion thats all. just an excuse."

That is the only justification needed for murder.

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You MUST justify behaviour without personal desires or the concept of "good" or "evil". You must justify behaviour by goals, and the means to attain them.

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Goals are personal desire.

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The morality of those goals is absolute given that you choose the side of philanthropy or sadism.

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Yes good or evil, right or wrong.

yes, it is the only moral justifacition needed for murder. how many people would actually mureder someone even if they had mroe than just cause? and im not saying all laws should go bye bye. they are good. they have the right to be there, according to my theory. adn i never said it was a clear line, i could be wrong in the kill for love thing, i could be wrong about all this, and i do not thikn that i can dectatewho should be killed and who shouldnt. the only thing i said was i know what love is. you doubt that because of my age, but it is something that you learn real fast. you just have to meet the right person.

and i dont go soly on emotion. of course i think things through. only and idiot would walk in blind with emotion. i almost always try to rationalize.

and most importantly, why must we justify things with out ourpersonal desires? this would make sense to me if you were trying to make a certain code that pertained to every situation. but i deal with every one of them seperatly. goals are personal desires.

why cant people think about while under the influence of there emotion?

it does take logic deductive and analisis(all words for thinking) but why cant we do that while we are feeling all those emotion that make us want what we want for the moment we want them.

One cannot let emotions drive them because emotions are irrational at best

i disagree. when i get extremly upset, angry or sad i tend to start to think faster.

But faster doesn't mean better. Often the faster one thinks the more prone one is to missing important details. How can one be objective when one is overwhelmed by emotions?

How can a human decide whats right and wrong?

I don't believe that any certain thing is right or wrong; good or bad. Those are just opinions that humans attach to things. Most things that are seen as right or wrong are just learned from society. Fuck society. There are things that are right and wrong for ourselves and I think that we should be true to that, but I also think that everyone should remember that just because we see an object in a certain way doesn't mean that that's the way it truly is.

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everyone should remember that just because we see an object in a certain way doesn't mean that that's the way it truly is.

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Indeed always remember that what we see as terrorism is actually not viewed as such by those doing it. If a mother beats her child the child probably deserved it. Change your perspective and you can make anything look good.