typical, egomanial attacks on ekimups psyche...
sleeping wraith..what are you asking? If someone else sees your labors as fruitless...does this mean that you see them the same( or that they are)? No...it doesnt. So why ask something irrelevant such as this?
..you have a tact for re-wording questions. I wonder, how much better off you may be with a brain of your own.
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"how can we get anywhere by talking to each other on such sensitive topics?"
i understand your point wraith..and i see it oh so beautifully in its meaningless, catchismic design. and i applaud you for that. i do also pity you for your own, over-playful manner.
We understand our intended goal to be peace, understanding, and enlightenment. Otherwise we wouldnt be posting and sharing views in "the meaning of life" forum. Or stating that these are indeed our intended goals.
Once again i'll state: truth exists whether we know it or permit it. As does the best path to any intended goal.
Whether we know we're "wasting time" or not, it is quite obvious some of us are, by investing hours upon hours upon days upon weeks...of our .."time" to this forum. Posting our intended goals while not working toward them. Assuming our conversation will somehow take us that much closer to something we havent found in others thus far,.. in the world around us.(it was the actions and tendencies of those around us, that forced us to view life through a looking glass...was it not?)..but by going to others for something YOU need...is a waste of time.
So if you want YOUR enlightenment..and YOUR peace and understanding, it can only come from you. No one thoroughly knows another as well as they know themselves...and noone has a better idea of what you need aside from, yourself.
So wraith, i guess the only way we can get ."anywhere" by talking to eachother on such sensitive topics, is by continuing to realize that no one has the answers you want to hear, noone has the answers you need to hear. Everything in your intentions and your goals..your desires and investments in time, only lead you looking right back at yourself. You can, waste your own time. You can take the wrong steps or move the wrong direction in the assumption that its the correct path...or maybe where you want to be. But thats where trial and error come up, and once again choice. You see that some shit just isnt doing for you what you thought it once was..or is. Your intended goal isnt being reached because your chasing your tail. Maybe this is the way of all life.. just as my " gay ass" infinite theory. But when it becomes so blantanly obvious that your chasing your tail, you will move away from it and attempt to find a more progressive route towards your goal. Your intended goal isnt to be running in circles-...thats not a goal.(if it WAS intended.) But not knowing your going in circles, and not understanding why or how in even the smallest instance...is the result of a limited perception.(i.e... the result of egotism).
You can very well be wasting your time, and in your own opinion-believe you're not. Granted, if you ever decide to swallow your pride, or whatever is holding you back...you can start progressing on a more productive and rewarding path.(in terms of you highest intentions.)
i was standing up for conway, because his point was as valid and logically sound as anyone elses on here. I agreed with him. Its difficult to present even the most basic of concepts to the egotistically confined mind of an instinctive defense mechanism.
but i did try.
(when i say no one knows me better than i know myself, i say this with the least bit of egotism. Because i know this to be true.) Whether i truly know that i know myself...is another question.