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It didn't hit me to ask until now, but Fleeting_dreams, what is your I.Q? Maybe knowing this will help me understand this little situation that is unfolding.

Laying it on the line, i have ASD and have been described as what is commonly known as a high-functioning autistic. However, i have also been said to have the following; borderline personality complex, dissociative personality complex, insomnia and ADHD inattentive.
As for my IQ, when i was first tested in my younger years, it was around 125, which is highly unusual for someone so young and from what i have been told from recent results, it is around 190 - 210. Unfortunately, this limits my involvement in some activities and i am not allowed to enter a casino or participate in games shows, which offer cash prizes.
Also just to clear something up, nihilistic perspectives are a major factor in my condition, thus i see my self as no more superior to anyone else and whilst my methods of gaining insight may seem obscure, they are sound.
What people say, to me, are just words and when staring into a crowd, i see faces, not people. Thus, the comments i originally made cannot be owned, because it would be impossible for me to hold such ideas. Simply, i was putting a personal thought, perception or emotion, into an area where it would otherwise be devoid.
Also for those of you who are now curious, my limitations lay in the simplest of things. I struggle with rational cognitive thought processes. Simple math problems are always a pain, because no matter what, my mind keeps insisting there is more to it and i have a tendency to over complicate things. I will repeat actions over and over again, until i grow board and am able to move onto something else. Relationships are troublesome and i find it almost impossible to maintain social obligations. Time, without constant reminding, has no meaning and i will spend hours on the most mundane of tasks, whilst rushing through other things.
Lastly, the one people seem to find most amusing is my complete and utter lack of physical coordination. Physical problems, for example, are most frustrating. I see it, understand it and have constructed and method by which to solve it, yet when i reach out, my hands never communicate with my brain and i end up in all kinds of messes. Shoe laces were a nightmare, which took years to overcome. Don't laugh.
I seldom find enjoyment it things, yet always seem compelled to learn and will spend countless hours reading, writing and researching. Yet, sadly, once aware, i am always kept at a distance from the world i seem drawn to most. Even if i want conversation, people tend to avoid it. Why, is something i cannot understand. If you have some insight, please, feel free to make a suggestion.
If, by making this thread, you think i was trying to come off as mysterious or superior, please forgive me, as this was not my intention. Simply put, i was looking for true curiosity and interest into areas, which would seldom concern others. I think, from a research disciplinary point of view, this would be called a passive anthropological approach.
Of those whom replied, it is clear MugenNoKarayami is the most curious and at no point, made any direct statements. His insight was non-bias and always subjective. And even though my opening statement might have been seen as confronting, he took it with a grain of salt and felt no personal challenge.
Decius, started in the same way, but with each post became increasingly cynical. However, i was providing him with enough live-ammo to fell an African elephant. Clearly of a psychological/sociological academic stance, you over analyzed and fell into believing that all actions and individuals can be interpreted and understood. By far the largest limitation when it comes to such perspectives is trying to find a rational point in an irrational subject; human nature.
With that said, i would like to take this opportunity to say, hello and if you wouldn't mind, i would very much like to linger around this forum and play an active role, when ever the chance arises.

What an odd way of asserting equality. Hello and welcome Fleeting_dreams. I would have accepted you all the same, without all of the theatrics.

I've learned that trying to think what another person is thinking too much is damamging. Instead, it is better to develop your way of thinking- or feeling. This way you develop a silent power called respect.

I see now. There was that feeling that insisted this was the case, but I didn't want to say it and possibly offend you... that should be reasonable because I'm so used to people going off at something I don't understand about them. ^_^; Now that I know for sure, oddly enough, I have come to be familiar with communicating with a friend of mine who shares this same 'problem', if you will.

This is actually exciting for me, because certain times, I've come to see the magnitude of his 'intellect', and can completely understand why simple cognitive thought and communication may seem impossible, and I've also experienced this myself on a few occasions. Seeing as though you are able to solidify most of your thoughts on here, without losing too much meaning, is sufficient enough for me to better understand where you're coming from and see your perspective through my own eyes... even though I was only able to see a fraction of what you may be experiencing.

What I'm curious about is, from seeing your point, are you afraid of people around you because they in no way can relate, keep up, or understand what you're trying to convey to them?

I've come to see it, at times, that one who possesses this ability is harnessing human capability... stepping outside of the lock of time and others around just seem to be in slow motion. And waiting for others to keep up becomes veryy.... irritating, I guess you could say, for lack of a better word at the moment.

If anything else, I am now more interested than ever to know more about you! Even offer to be an outlet of some sort for you to feel completely free to communicate or express yourself as you see you should or want to. It's a lot easier to express ones self by means of typing or writing, because you probably know, too many thoughts come rushing in when you're trying to talk, so typing them out seems to slow down or solidify those thought processes.


The reason I never took any of your replies as threats, is because I knew from the very first post there was something behind it.. mainly because of the title and the following posts.

Essentially, i respect everyone around me and never look down upon them. Strangely, it is not that people frighten me as such and it is not that i think they cannot keep up with me, its the reverse actually. Communication and physical actions are difficult for me and take a like time to process. Thus, when meeting me, people at one glance think there is something wrong with me and avoid me like the plague. However, when they do get to know me and discover what is going on in the background, they still avoid me, but for entirely abstract reasons.
Writing for me, is an outlet, that i could not be without and though requires some physical attributes, i was lucky enough to find a soft-touch keyboard, which enables me to type almost as fast as i can think.

I've found - actually it found me - that when I was younger I sought intelligence - intelligent people and intelligent works. But its failry useless without experience - so get a load of that and aim for wisdom. But wisdom is limited too - you learn what to do in certain circumstances - but what happens in new ones?

So the ultimate aim is resourcefulness. Why? Reality kicks in. Intelligence and wisdom are stagnant without this word. So you learn how to be 'in - genius'. Thats what separates scientists and thinkers from magicians; creativity and being corageous - practically.

Resourcefulness doesn't mean you analyse another's feelings but it can help you earn a people's respect (note comment above). A mis-fit had the capacity to carry on being this or to have the power to be admired and accepted. People who are markedly different are either feared or admired. Your choice.


Like people who struggle to find academic work easy; they may find socialising more easy. Your battle is the opposite fom what I see.

So there you go. Become a magician. lol.

You might do well to read Leonardo Da Vinvc's writings - especially his parables and 'tricks'. Experimenting with what does or doesn't work in certain social cases (within the law!) can only be useful - practice on strangers first. Maybe there's another David Blaine lurking.

I do enjoy social parables. I think E. A, Poe was another who designed some rather strange tactics to utilize in various circumstances. However, finding such examples is rather difficult and even more so, to find legitimate ones.

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However, finding such examples is rather difficult and even more so, to find legitimate ones

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lol. That's the point of my above post. Experiment, create, design, practice some...of your own - that literature can be seen as learning or inspiration. The difference is one is inward looking the other outward looking.