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Ignorance: acceptable?

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 37yrs • F •
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Ignorance: acceptable?
There is soooooooooooooo much information out there, it hurts my head just thinking about it. the development of human knowledge has led to specialization so you no longer have doctor/politicians/scientists/writers like Ben Franklin anymore. It's not possible for me to know everything about the ongoings of politics and the different values of different cultures etc is it?

I reached this thought when thinking about those cartoon published by the Danish newspaper. A lot of people who aren't Muslim don't understand why Muhammad is so important to the 1 billion Muslims all over the world. On one hand, I thought this ignorance was pathetic because believing in Muhammad is half of being a Muslim (so if you never knew Jesus was important in Christianity, you are a dolt.) But then I tried to justify the ignorance by the points in my first paragraph. Waddya think?

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"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"
 42yrs • M •
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There is a lot of information and opions out there and sometimes there is too much to learn about another religion especially Islam unless you want to read the Koran in its arabic. The best thing to do is respect others beliefs and not criticise them unless you can think of a valid argument.I think everyone must understand why Mohammed is important to muslims but not everyone respects other peoples beliefs. This is out of ignorance and sometimes it cannot be cured people are born this way.

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"Great visions often start with small dreams"
 39yrs • M •
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I think everyone must understand why Mohammed is important to muslims but not everyone respects other peoples beliefs


We talk about tolerance and respecting all ideas, but this is just an illusion we only accept certain ideas that don't go against what we already believe. How many people would be willing to respect the views of those who created and published the cartoons? How many of you really understand the belief systems of the people responsible for the cartoons?

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 42yrs • M •
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you cant respect someones beliefs if their beliefs are so blatantly disrespectful (i.e. danish cartoons) but respect for religion is completely different. respect for religion is a human right.

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"Great visions often start with small dreams"
 39yrs • M •
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So if the cartoonists acted based on religion then would you respect them? What if two religious views clash, then who do you side with?
If we get to decide what is disrespectful then we can choose to disrespect any group we feel like it. In the end we can always disrespect those who are "too different"

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
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 42yrs • M •
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The cartoonists are idoits. Enough said on them. religions clash all the time and thats because people do not tolerate other beliefs and yes there are relgions that are very controversal and sometimes we must question them. by respect i mean tolerate and i think we are living in such a diverse world that we must learn to tolerate other religions. if someone is offended easily then dont inuslt them, some people can take it some cant. You have to understand why the muslims are outraged by this cartoon and see an argument from two perspectives.

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"Great visions often start with small dreams"
 39yrs • M •
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What about free speech? It doesn't seem as though you are looking at the from two perspectives. I'm not calling any one right but I am saying that we should examine both sides before we make judgements.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 41yrs • M •
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It's impossible in finite time to learn everything. Some of its just information anyway. Best trick: feel whats important to you. Set goals. And then all the learning you'll need is the way to get those goals. Seek wisely, always keep moving and you should get what you want. Even if you don't; you'll be one heck of a person.

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""No words""
 36yrs • M
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how about stop judgeing everything?
maybe that'll help a little.

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 37yrs • F •
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"Best trick: feel whats important to you."

What if politics isn't important to me? Should I just remain ignorant about what's going on in the world?

If you judge as an ignorant person, you'll have narrow perceptions of everything, which will, in turn, affect your behavior.

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"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"
 36yrs • M
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thats not what i said. i said to stop all together.

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 41yrs • M •
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What if politics isn't important to me? Should I just remain ignorant about what's going on in the world?

Clearly this is important to you. The question is will you get angered by it or be able to do something about it? If you can; get going. I sense you want to put bad things right; If you get angered by the wrong things but don't have the capability to do anything; do whats necessary to someone who can. Kicking, screaming, making a fuss isnt the way to do things; though admittedly it may make you feel better.

The point is: dont jump in the deep and when you cant swim; above all dont stab yourself in the foot. Thats the worst thing anyone can do. So dont be ignorant but know the limits in what you can achieve. If you think you can go for it; best not be with those cold and timid souls who dont know victory or defeat. Rule 1 though; never stab yourself in the foot.

I think my point is; dont be ignorant. But, its in the reaction to knowledge that changes things. You normally have two choices; fear attached to the new knowledge or positive right action. If you cant escape the fear factor; find someone who'll help you. Dont dig too deep though if you cant get yourself back out. Too much knowledge can isolate and in the wrong mindset could depress.

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""No words""
 37yrs • F •
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Awakend, how can we stop judging everything?


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"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"
 65yrs • M •
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My mom had read every book there was about Edgar Cayce, and she would always tell me what Edgar Cayce said, anyways.

Edgar Cayce said that we will reach a point where there is just too much knowledge for us to take in and society will begin to breakdown - maybe that's whats happening.

Concerning the Cartoons, from NPR news (they're not always right but the closest I have to listen to on the radio back and forth to work), the person responsible for the cartoons did not know that it was against the Muslim religion to depict the prophet. I'm not sure if I believe that, besides, he is the news guy, he's supposed to be in the know. He ran a contest and the most disrespectful cartoons were not published, but people heard about them and that caused an outrage.

I kind of think it was a bit overdone, but I have to think if I was Muslim and saw bloody children in Iraq, my brethen being punished for only living in Iraq. I think it was just a matter of the straw that broke the camels back. At least those responsible for the cartoons might have thought, hey, you know, maybe now is not a good time for this.

You can look at these Muslims and see all the terrorisms and think all kinds of bad things about them, but you can also turn around and see a Christian supporting TORTURE, standing behind a president who accidently killed a hundred thousand Iraqis (claiming that he thought they were a threat) and he's not one bit sorry about it.

You have to say wait a minute, what we have here is evil against evil killing and hurting a lot of good people and then you know where you should be on this.

There are Christians and Muslims standing up against their fanatical brethren, and that's were you need to be, and it don't take long to see that these fanatical Muslims and Christians who wage war and terror aren't Muslims and Christians at all, no, there just money hungry greedy selfish people who claim to follow God but haven't a clue of God's will. But you who wage peace do and will be called children of God just like Jesus said. After awhile, its just not too complicated at all.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 47yrs • M •
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Back to trying to learn everything... trying not to be ignorant... perhaps the best you can do is work on core topics and where you stand. Sometimes one simple thing can go a long way like the old line 'Do unto others as you would have done unto you.'.
Often people will say the same things in different ways, but by establishing a more concise and brief overview may help. To see where the same thing is said, just in different ways.
An introductory to philosophy book will cover the main topics... often you can take it from there...
There was always an infinity of things to think about and remember even before the printing press that put the message in mass out there.
I guess, just don't be ignorant of the central themes... and there is an awful lot of time to make inroads in specialising, and touching briefly on many topics...
I think some ignorance is fine, just as we cannot be a master of trades, nor can we encompass all states of mind, but we could make some ground on having some idea what they are all about...just try not to ignore things when you see them if you can...
One idea, find a way of condensing great amounts of knowledge to formulae wherever possible...
One tip may be finding out how the mind will logically take in such knowledge...with the formulae involved...

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