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 39yrs • M •  A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.  |
So if something is known to have a certain outcome then it is not fate?
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37yrs • M • A CTL of 1 means that TRANCEND is a contributing member of Captain Cynic. |
NOPE. FOR INSTANCE, YOU RUN A RED LIGHT AND GET HIT, ITS NOT FATE BECAUSE THERE IS ALSO A CHANCE YOU WONT GET HIT.
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39yrs • M • A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic. |
Not true because it is not unpredictible to say that running a red light will cause an accident. There are simply more outcomes that are possible. It is simply a chance as to which fate you will have but there is always a fate not always a chance. Chance is under the rule of fate and fate is subject to free will.
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37yrs • M • A CTL of 1 means that TRANCEND is a contributing member of Captain Cynic. |
CHANCE DOESNT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE UNPREDICTABLE.
YOU STATED EARLIER THAT FATE MEANS OUTCOME, SO NOW YOU SAY MANY FATES ARE POSSIBLE. FATE MEANS PREDETERMINED, ONLY ONE AND UNCHANGING.
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39yrs • M • A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic. |
quote:
CHANCE DOESNT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE UNPREDICTABLE
I have yet to see it defined differently. quote:
FATE MEANS PREDETERMINED, ONLY ONE AND UNCHANGING.
Fate is whatever the final outcome is. Regardless of the possibilities whatever happens is fate because it did happen.
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37yrs • M • A CTL of 1 means that TRANCEND is a contributing member of Captain Cynic. |
DONT GET ME WRONG, IT CAN BE UNPREDICTABLE, THAT HOWEVER DOESNT MEAN IT ALWAYS HAS TO.
FATE DOES MEAN PREDETERMINED, LOOK IT UP.
YOUR FINAL STATEMENTS ARE JUST YOUR BELIEFS, AND ARE NO LONGER OPEN TO ARGUMENT. SINCE YOU SAY FATE IS WHATEVER THE FINAL OUTCOME IS, THEN ANY EXAMPLE I PROPOSE WILL, OBVIOUSLY, ALWAYS HAVE AN OUTCOME, AND ACCORDING TO YOU THEN,ALWAYS MEAN FATE.
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39yrs • M • A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic. |
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DONT GET ME WRONG, IT CAN BE UNPREDICTABLE, THAT HOWEVER DOESNT MEAN IT ALWAYS HAS TO.
By its definition it does. quote:
SINCE YOU SAY FATE IS WHATEVER THE FINAL OUTCOME IS, THEN ANY EXAMPLE I PROPOSE WILL, OBVIOUSLY, ALWAYS HAVE AN OUTCOME, AND ACCORDING TO YOU THEN,ALWAYS MEAN FATE.
So chance is subject to its outcome (fate)
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