Was Christ really resurrected? - Page 5

History of the men mentioned in the Bible show the texts are not made up fiction.

IT is only in the last few 100 or so years these digs proove that the lives written in the texts show they existed.

How can it be a false story if we find the details in ancient past...before our eyes?

Tombs of the Kings whom lived written about in Kings...

AND if we know they existed..how is it you claim it is a fiction>????

The story of the capture of Sion..Isreal...is right there in ancient text and lithographs of the ancient city of Babylon.

THIS is evidence...but it takes an open mind to conclude the correlation.

Because evidence of appropriately naming historical figures and events that are corroboratable does not prove or provide evidence of claims of miracles or ressurections.

But you don't get that. You think that because anything is accurate, everything is accurate, and thats not a sound theory.

There is simply no empirical secular evidence that Jesus even lived, let alone was sent by a higher power to 'die for our sins'. What are used are literary references written hundreds of years after his death. These written references have been subjected to thousands of years of editing, translation, and hand written copying, any one of which would be responsible for misunderstandings. They have also been subjected to the inclusion of rhetoric and doctrine supporting language, by generations of priests and Popes, who were much more interested in material political power than spiritual redemption. Those are the facts, period.

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For this reason Pope Paul I (757-67) began to transfer the remains of the martyrs to the churches of the city; the work was continued by Paschal I (817-24) and Leo IV (847-55).

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Now this is history - can you go further back?

Still - the symbol of the fish has everyone baffled, lots of opinions, but nobody knows for sure. The confusing part is. It would found in groups of three, possibly representing the father, son and holy ghost, but the fish would be found in groups of two or four. Possibly it represents the apostles, but could never be found in a group of twelve. Nobody knows for sure what the fish means, and its all over the place throughout the Catacombs. You would think that a symbol that important, it would not be forgotten. Religious symbols commonly last for thousands of years.

The fact that they found earlier writings does not prove that the earlier writings have historacle value. In religion, stories are often told to prove a point about humanity and its connection to its creator, but the stories themselves are not always true. Jesus made up many stories to teach us the good news.

The fish symbol was used extensively in pre-Christian culture as a fertility symbol. For example, it is associated with Aphrodite in ancient Greece, and her other aspects in other religions, such as Delphine, Pelagia, and with the son of the Sea Goddess Atargatis, Ichthys. It is also the creature that swallowed the penis of Osirus, when he was ripped apart, and was a representation of the vulva of Isis when the point is pointing downwards.

Sir James George Frazer notes in his work, "Adonis, Attis, Osiris: Studies in the History of Oriental Religion" (Part Four of "The Golden Bough" that for some in India, the fish was thought to hold deceased souls, and that as part of a fertility ritual certain fish are eaten in the belief that the soul will be reincarnated in a newborn child.

Also, shrines dating from the sixth millennium BC contain this symbol, and are associated with a Pagan religion found in the ancient Danube river basin, used to represent the Great Mother, and in this form is referred to as the Vesica Piscis.

Ancient Christians used it as a sign designating safe haven, and to signal other Christians. What better symbol could one use, than one your 'enemy' utilized?

some of the apostles were fishermen. Jesus came to them calling them to be fishers of men => sign of the fish then symbolized that they had been caught in His net.

PS: Jesus is called Lord because He is the Lord [master] of those who are Christians.GOD is the Lord in Heaven, Christ is Lord of this world. As OT states Jews wanted a king [Lord] like those nations around them. GOD gave them one but told them it was to their error.
Kings were accepted as earthly gods who ruled by divine right as decedents of the gods. Jesus lead but kings lorded over their subjects. This attitude [spirit] was passed down as a man's home is his castle establishing the right of the Lord to do according to his will, subjecting upon others [family] as his slaves or servants.