The last leg for Atheism - Page 9

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Creation is good

Destruction is bad

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I'm going to have to disagree with this one.
I view creation and destruction as equal in my eyes.

Actually my frame of ref is

If its successful it must be right

If its a failure it must be wrong

But this can be deceptive because sometimes it looks like you are succeeding to only fail down the road. Sometimes it might look like you are failing, but not to give up to soon, success is just around the corner.

I will further qualify by asking - Are my actions destructive to myself and others or creative, building me up and others.

"Are my actions destructive to myself and others or creative, building me up and others." Every action has infinite consequences.

With all these different views on what the frame of reference is for good and bad, how can we say anything is really wrong or right if it just boils down to someones interpretation and personel ideas?

For anything to be called evil or bad we have to have some objective moral framework or point of reference. If we dont what are we measuring it against.

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With all these different views on what the frame of reference is for good and bad, how can we say anything is really wrong or right if it just boils down to someones interpretation and personel ideas?

For anything to be called evil or bad we have to have some objective moral framework or point of reference. If we dont what are we measuring it against.

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Thats right, and it is not possible for everyone to agree because some people are just completely opposite of me let alone everyone else in the world.
We can't all agree on this, its not going to happen.

The heart knows the truth:

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Romans 2:15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them)

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Every action has infinite consequences

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or infinte rewards.

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The heart knows the truth:



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Romans 2:15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them)
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Actaully the heart doesnt know the truth. Yes i know you were most likelly speaking metaphorically. Still that passage proves nothing. Or for that matter says anything.

I believes he is referring to the concious.

Which if you were, differs immensely from person to person.

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Actaully the heart doesnt know the truth. Yes i know you were most likelly speaking metaphorically. Still that passage proves nothing. Or for that matter says anything.

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So tell us - how do you determine right and wrong?

You don't. You just decide what you like and what you dislike. Which obviously differs from person to person.

So some people like to rape and murder and the thrill of the steal, and thats just alright.

To them it is right.
To us possibly not.

Yeah it is alright.

i dont see anything wrong with it

COME THE FUCK ON ! ! ! ! !

like we havent had this conversation A THOUSAND TIMES