born gay - Page 12

good question but i didnt say anything about there look you could ask someone out to a date and they could say no cuz there gay/a lesbian. so how can you tell?

Sounds like someone's coming out of the closest

Your question is very far from being relevant to what we are talking about.

But to answer it, your basically saying that the source of all gay people in the world is rejection. Well that would make sense except that a lot of people in (heterosexual) marriages have secret affairs with people of the same sex. So what your saying still makes no sense.

Open your mind and start listening to yourself not your paster.

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i didnt say anything about there look you could ask someone out to a date and they could say no cuz there gay/a lesbian. so how can you tell?

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First of all use spell check because your grammar is terrible and it make you look uneducated

I also think you should take a look at this post

http://www.captaincynic.com/thread/39297/captain-cynic-forum-rules.htma >

Your post is irrelevant and strays from the original question so if you're not going to answer the question given don't Waste our time.

In my opinion i think some/ most people are born gay. But there is that percentage and i mean this with the upmost respect lol "ugly people" who have never really had a relationship with the opposite sex and have already grown to the point of desperateness were pleasure is pleasure.

I think that stuff about gays are just a piece of shit there is no such thing as a man with another man or a women with another women, its becouse of the environment and our stupid money grabing society ppl becoume gay.

What does the money grabbing nature of society have to do with homosexuals?

yeah right you budist im straighter then a flat plain im actually taken and we see eachother every day and talk on weekends so shut up

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we see eachother every day and talk on weekends so shut up

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Ok, first of all we are here to discuse a topic so if you don't want responses on a post don't post it
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Secondly why are you defending your self we don't want to know if your in a relationship we are not questioning your sexual preference we just want you start thinking and not to run your mouth.

Sorry ok but you cant be born gay you can only become gay.

please read this letter. i feel so confused and offended about myself with regards to the way i am, and i think i need a psychologist or a psychiatrist or some kind of therapy to let me know what it is i need to know...because not knowing my true identity is causing me to be drastic in the way i cope.

I WANT TO FIND OUT WHO I WAS PREDETERMINED TO BE, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIVING A LIE!!!!!

i was reading on some "born this way" website about someone - let's call him "randolph" - who was trying to justify his being "born gay" with a picture of him as a small boy wearing a female's hat on his head. "the cat was already out of the bag," he wrote. i will ask if it's true that a life is set in stone at such a young age, because i am living a lie if it is true. for crying out loud, i enjoy the way malt-candy tastes today but i was sickened and revolted by the taste as a boy. what is the meaning of this, i thought the cat was out of the bag that i hated malt-candy! WHY WERE MY PREDETERMINED TASTES CHANGED, I HAD HATED MALT-CANDY SINCE BIRTH AND NOW I LOVE IT.

my parents have a picture of me being on a soccer team at age 5 or 6 - was the cat was out of the bag that i was born to be a soccer player? soccer once attracted me like joni attracted chachi, so am i supposed to be a soccer player and am i denying my true identity by not playing sports? i would like to learn the truth of who i was predetermined to be, because the last thing i want to do is deny myself of my true wants and desires simply because those wants and desires were discouraged through other peoples' negative opinions of my being a sportsman.

i have recently become somewhat of an incessant player of slot machines. i'm somewhat entranced when i'm seeing and hearing the slots - slots attract me like honey does to a bee, and it's so difficult for me to keep from wrapping my hand around the big long pole and jerking it down to get the slot machine ejaculating out money. my mind is in a different place when i am faced with a row of sinfully-attractive slot machines, they are such a temptation. i kind of want a psychologist or other head-therapist to help me become the non-gambling person i want to be., i don't want to see slot machines the way i do and i don't want to be attracted to slot machines the way i am, but i'm sure it is illegal for psychologists to change peoples' orientations. if gambling comes so naturally to me, if i am oriented to the gambling world, then i have a gamblers' orientation and i fear a psychologist would get in trouble for helping me change my orientation. i fear i will just have to accept having been oriented to gambling.

i wouldn't think i was born a gambler, as i had never wanted to gamble before age 37, but maybe my inner gambler was stifled by christians who made me believe that gambling is bad. maybe the choices i've made in life were a product of christians' values which just didn't orient me to gambling. maybe i was actually born a gambler, maybe my true identity was stifled by christians, but even if it wasn't then i'm sure i could find some "gay rights" groups to help me believe that i was always just afraid to proclaim the truth about myself.

by age five, i was imitating john travolta singing "greased lightning," so i wonder if actors are predetermined. i memorized "ferris bueller's day off" at 13, i memorized "dirty dancing" at 14, i acted in high school plays, was i born to be an actor? i joined the soccer team at about the same time as i emulated john travolta, am i supposed to be an actor with a hobby of playing soccer? am i supposed to be a soccer player with a hobby of acting? i guess i was born with so much knowledge and so many interests and desires already formed inside my brain, that it's hard to determine who i was meant to be.

i've had a love for dogs since i was 8 years old, i've always wanted them to be protected from harm and to live a happy life, i've always seen dogs of the world through the eyes of a caretaker - was i born this way? was i born to be an animal-rights activist? am i predetermined to be a soccer player with a hobby of acting, doing a weekend job at the local animal shelter while spending my free time giving in to temptation at casinos? i'll assume that this is just what randolph would assume - he'd maintain that my behaviors should reflect my childhood. he'd maintain that i was born with lusts for acting and gambling, though my gambling-lust was stifled by christians until my30s, and that it is self-denial not to act on my lusts. he'd also maintain that i destroyed a part of myself because i had let other people stifle my desire to play soccer so much that it doesn't exist anymore.

i'd wonder if randolph would maintain that i was born a dog-lover, since i've loved dogs even before i started loving members of my own gender. i don't trust randolph, i don't even know if he's a psychologist, so i want to ask the following question to someone who knows something about predetermined lives: who am i, why am i attracted to slot machines if other men are not, why do i now like malt-candy when i've hated it for as long as i can remember? and why does my mind process images of slot machines and flavors of malt-candy differently than the way other mens' minds do?

I WANT TO FIND OUT WHO I WAS PREDETERMINED TO BE, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIVING A LIE!!!!!

president obama has spoken, and i know that life is not what i make of it. i know that life is like a business and that one person is not responsible for either, therefore i want to live the life i was supposed to live and not the life i've made for myself.

I WANT TO FIND OUT WHO I WAS PREDETERMINED TO BE, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIVING A LIE!!!!!

We grow or become who we are .
We are merly a product of our own experiences.

From my opinion i believe all personalty types except for a few traits passed down in genes, are created by the experience the subject were to have.

Therefor being homosexual is a personal
choice there isn't a homo chromosome

yes. other than instances where trauma or some other situation has caused someone to 'switch teams' i believe homosexuality is from birth.
i am bi sexual, and have been since my earliest memories. i remember having a crush on a girl in kindergarten. where did that come from if not my own preferences?

Your experiences in your life create your personality type. If from a young age you found it acceptable to find someone of the same sexuality attractive, then you create a brain set. The more you act on your thoughts the more acceptable it becomes to you.
I have many gay freinds but thats there choice and what they deem acceptable.

I do find it curious how a social taboo can stray people from a richus path.

the way i see homosexuality is that it's wrong not that it isn't possible or that it's not a legitimate issue that people have to deal with in their lives just that it's not right to pursue as if it's a normalcy i base my understanding on the subject off of how things in general function like say a puzzle one can take a piece of it and fit it into another where it doesn't go but how dose that help finish the puzzle it doesn't and i feel the same way about the human body that's not the way we are built it stops reproduction of the human race

I love these forums, as people always seem to steer away from the original question. I am not even going to start on the religious point as members have stated, but am going to stick to the original question. I believe that individuals can be born gay as well as turning gay throughout their lifetime. Some of my older friends have said that their child is gay, and have been right when they have grown up. Then I have a few of my younger friends who are straight by nature, but turned gay due to preference in the same sex. I believe science and technology will be able to determine whether one has been born gay or changed gay through their lifetime.