born gay - Page 11

he's got a real good point there. how do we honestly know anything is true. we al get most of our info. from other people that have got there info. from other people. its very possible we have been lied to all our lives.

or it could be ethrealmeekle who is being lied to, but without even a reason, why should you beleive that you are being lied to?

Ok, for you who want to know why we know certain things in life consider this, when considering homosexuality...

Conceptually, the aim of conducting research is to gain new knowledge. On one level, this is a self evident statement, but does raise certain epistemological questions relating to what knowledge is, how we as human beings actually know, and the different ways taht we acquire knowledge. we know in essesntially six different ways. Through:

1-Tenacity: knowledge is accepted as valid because they it has been accepted for so long or repeated so often that it seem to be true.
2-Autorithy: knowledge is accepted as valid bacause some respected authority asserts that it is true.
3-Intuition: accepting ideas and knowledge as valid becuase they "feel" intuitively true.
4-Empiricism: knowlede is gained through direct observation and experiences; that is to say, perception through the senses.
5-rationalism: the development of new ideas and knowledge using existing ideas and knowledge in association with the princioples of logic.
6-Science: knowledge gained through a process combining rationalism and empiricism. Theory development is based in rationalism and theory testing is generally an empirical process, while data analysis is agin based in rationalism.

I personally beleive homosexuality is more of a intuition thing. For what i know and feel seems and holds true.

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I personally beleive homosexuality is more of a intuition thing

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Are you saying being gay is intuitive or that the understanding of what homosexuality is based on intuition?

Inuition tells me that its genetic...

1-just besuase ir always been done a certain way doesnt make it right, take christopher columnus, it was KNOWN that the earth was flat
2-athurity is corrupt
3-intuitoin is opinion
4-sometimes senses lie
5-that is under the asumption that all the info. we have is correct
6-science is always best guess

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6-science is always best guess

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Quite right. authority is allways the last refuge of a liar.

we got really off topic. sry about that.

It was intuition that lead to Simon LeVay's incredibly biased research which although proving nothing relating to a biological cause of homosexuality is still widely accepted as doing so by media sources and gay rights activists.

yeah...thx.

I belive some people are born gay, and not raised, for example, i know of someone who was raised in a pretty rough famly, and in a pretty dodgey area, turns out hes was gay. got completely outcasted by his family, there was no way he was raised gay, BUT i think there are some exceptions, for example now gay adoption is allowed im sure most of those children will become gay, as its basically all they know, just as you are use to seeing your parents kissing and stuff, they will be use to it with their dads, then there are gay people who are gay just to be diffrent, but i think the rise in the gay community has increased because it is now so widely accepted, people can say they are gay usually without being beaten up/killed, this also causes the feeling that they must act more 'gay', going back to the example that guy who was outcasted had a massive personality change once he socialised with gays, most likely so he would be accepted.


conclusion

Some Born Gay

Some Raised

You poor, scared, feeble, weak minded trolls just look at you, wondering all sorts of stoopid stuff. Are people born gay?, will I go to heaven if I am gay? no wonder society is falling apart. It's not evolving its devolving. Who cares what you are as long as you're human, just be you and forget about what it is or looks like to others.

Get a life, gay or otherwise. But keep your gayness and your religion to yourself, that's your business, and nobody cares how devoted you are to being one or the other or both... Expressing your faith and preference could get you shot dead. So remember that the next time you quote the queer bible or your feelings.

good day

people cant be born gay people that are gay couldnt get a girlfriend earlier in there life so they gave up on society and started dating dudes

that is really ignorent, open your mind.

You dont even need to open your mind too much, just look at homosexuals and lesbians, do they all look like they are so sexually unattractive they can't get with anyone of the opp sex?

And what would give them the idea that they would have better luck with the same sex...?