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Questioning his Behaviour - Page 3

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 39yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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and people need to be lucky in order to be able to access the Bible (place, right eductaion etc.) then that seems a little like elitism.


This may seem to be the case with a lot of religions but not Christianity. Anyone, anywhere with any education can be a Christian so how is that at all like elitism? The Holy Spirit guides our worship and He can find us anywhere. There are accounts of people acting out of faith in God without ever having heard of the Bible.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that sleepingwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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"Life is such sweet sorrow."
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 36yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
well put.

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 39yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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Why should such a creature give a damn about a pathetic consciousness such as yourself?


Because He created us.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that sleepingwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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"Life is such sweet sorrow."
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 39yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
What law of the universe forces any one to care about anyone else? There is no law we do it (if at all) because we choose to.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that eliasan is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
sligthlly off topic but how do u know that"god" is a guy how do we know that "god" is not a girl or an it. The reason it was written as a guy was becouse of possible note possible (im still working on how to write this with out offending anyone to badlly preferablly not at all.) becouse the people who wrote it were sexist or wouldn't think that thier diety was just a being.

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"Fear nothing for fear is the mind killer."
 38yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that summit is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
you are correct eliasan. Ancient written history was always written by men. What we know of the past has been from a males perspective, unfortunately.

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"The summit is just a halfway point"
 72yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that cturtle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Interesting point, perhaps the reason for the Hebrew translation of GOD as Plural form?

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"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."
 59yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that RaTyphon is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Making an assumption here, but probably giving credit to the supreme being as a male is that fact that the three faces of the christian incarnation were father, son, and holy ghost. Now yes, this could have been amended later but the son part is kind of hard to change sex on so late in the telling of the story. Blame the new testament....but Charlton Heston was talkin to a baritone bush in that movie.

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""I do not wish my pockets to be searched.""
 39yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
First of all you are approaching this as though God is simply man made. God is described as male because He chose to be. Secondly if God was portrayed as a woman we would still be arguing that it was sexist.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 72yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that cturtle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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Now there have been many threads floating about this site about whether God exists or not. But as I see it, it is not whether he exists that one should try to examine since as myself and the whole theory of feminism decided proving anything true is impossible, but that you should justify the reasoning behin believing in him or not. For such a thing is outside the grasp of conscienceness and we should focus more on ourselves and do so without masquerade.
And what I mean by that, is we should examine ourselves and our reasoning behind what we do for either the believer of god or the believers of no god. Notice I call them both believers because that is what any living human trully is. Also, be sure to express what your intentions are when doing so instead of beating around the bush because you feel you might not get the reaction your looking for if your motives are known.

Sounds like a viable way to consider the aspect of belief as manifested (justify) our actions?
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To start off I will attack the morality in theistic beliefs. People seem to follow such a god because of the promise of life after death but just as importantly the structuring of right and wrong pertaining to the divine command theory.
It states that what is right is what God commands and what is wrong is what God forbids. It has several issues that even a believer will have difficulty with. Supprisingly it was first noted by Plato, 400 years before Jesus.
Plato asked the question whether conduct is right because it is commanded by the gods or if the gods command it because it is right.
Hmm . . . does that line of reasoning lead to a better understanding? What rights or responsibilities does the superior have to the inferior which (he / she) coexist?
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Both cases have issues. The first being that if what is right is because God commands it so, then if he so wanted it, lying could be the right instead of telling the truth. From a moral point of view his command is arbitrary. Since God is supposed to be good, and he dictates what is good. To explain it further we can look at it mathematicaly. If "X is good" it means that "X is commanded by God", and if "God's commands are good" then that means "God's commands are commanded by God" which would be redundant.

Hmm . . . that line of reasoning doesn't lead to a better understanding? Is the Supreme Being commandments an arbitrary choice on (he/she) desire? Is GOD commandments for our or all life's best interest or just GOD's vested interest?
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In the second case, God commands us to do what in is infinite wisdom he sees as right. In which case right and wrong would be completely independant of God.
Any rebuttals?
I would tend to agree, GOD commandments are for our &r all life's best not GOD's vested interest? That GOD's wisdom (comprehension) is beyond ours so the superior acts to benefits the inferior is good? While acts which benefit the superior at the expense of the inferior are evil or bad?

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"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."
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 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that sleepingwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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"Life is such sweet sorrow."
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 39yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Because God has only ever revealed Himself as male

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that sleepingwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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"Life is such sweet sorrow."
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