Excerp: Truth of War - Page 3

(WARNING: EXTREMELY IMPORTANT INFORMATION)

N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

By David Ruppe
ABC News

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

This is in referrence to the Northwoods Documents which are viewable at the National Security Archives online.

These plans were not only drafted, but Signed Off, ok'd all the way to Kennedy who apparently stopped it.

But conspriacy is a term for the delusional right? People will most likely simply just not get what this article and these documents mean.

A GOVERNMENT PLAN TO USE SELF CREATED TERRORIST ATTACKS TO JUSTIFY WAR!!!

The reality of the existance of this information alone is far more important than a dying Pope, anyone's feeding tubes, missing interns linked through adultery to Senators, any of it.

This is not a joke, its not fake, check it out for yourself. This is why I added a mainstream news article making referrence of any sort.

"America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.""

"helpful"

?To whom for what end?

Link to Documents
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

Testimony links CIA to Iraq deaths

Herald Sun | April 5 2005

CIA interrogations may have played a role in the deaths of several detainees in Iraq, according to sworn military statements obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,12759960%5E170
2,00.html






(Just a reminder post of some good info and vids from another good thread)
http://www.captaincynic.com/thread.php3/thrdid=36318-u-frmid=23

UK 'sexed it up', admits intelligence chief

LONDON: Britain's intelligence chiefs have for the first time admitted that claims they made about former Iraq President maintenance Hussein's weapons of mass destruction were wrong, Xinhua reported.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1072914.cms

Suspect's Death Evokes Hussein Era
Brutal Beating Reminiscent of Methods of Ex-President's Enforcers, Relatives Say

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38394-2005Apr8.html

Saturday 9th April 2005 (18h01) :
Massive "End the Occupation" Protest in Baghdad Dwarfs the "Saddam Toppled" rally: Photos

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20050410/ap_on_r
e_mi_ea/iraq&sid=84439559

This article is making a very interesting accusation or report. It sounds a bit fishy, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.

http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=4/6/2005&Cat=4&Num
=018

304 U.S. soldiers ordered killed by Pentagon in Iraq

Report: U.S. does keep Iraqi body count

(But don't expect them to tell you about it)

http://interestalert.com/brand/siteia.shtml?Story=st/sn/04200000aaa05913
.upi&Sys=siteia&Fid=FRONTPAG&Type=News&Filter=Front%20Pag
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Dear Leftwood,

Do you oppose war?

I oppose all war, this does not mean that I disregard the reality of war or at least conflict, and the necessity of defense or even offense of appropriate natures and circumstance.

My opposistion of war as a concept and accepted reality is in light of the standard goal of the romantic notion of peace and my personal experience and knowledge of people in pain and suffering, abuse, and violence. Especially violence.

However, when it comes to my posistion on the specific war at hand, I have very mixed feelings including very good reason to believe at least possible that the war has very specific and unacceptable intentions making it an unjust war.

Not even considering the dubious history of this situation or the amount of devastation (as well as hopefully some possitive change) being incurred, in world humanitarian, ecological, economical, and political terms.

I guess what I'm saying is, I abhore war and true violence in a basic sense.

While understanding the need for defensive action.

And in regards to this war, I have questions on history, motive, and intended outcome.

With situations like those presented in these documentaries existing, this seems quite reasonable to me.

http://www.captaincynic.com/thread.php3/thrdid=33802-u-frmid=23

"And in regards to this war, I have questions on history, motive, and intended outcome. "

Why we fight

Award winning documentary. One that addresses these issues in question.

http://www.indybay.org/uploads/why_we_fight.ram

US guards at Guantanamo tortured me, says UK man

In a detailed 10-page account Mr Deghayes, whose family fled Libya after his father, a prominent lawyer and trade unionist, was allegedly murdered by agents of Muammar Gaddafi in 1980, claims:

* Pakistani interrogators put him in a "snake room" with glass cases holding poisonous snakes to make him confess, and tortured him with electric shocks;

* Members of the US "extreme reaction force" at Guantanamo Bay blinded him in his already weak right eye with Mace riot control gas and by gouging it with a finger;

* At Bagram airbase, Afghanistan, US guards allegedly sodomised five detainees, and forced petrol and benzene into the anuses of others;

* In Pakistan, two interrogators tied him to a bench, repeatedly whipped him with wooden canes in turns and threatened with him rape;

* British intelligence officers interrogated him in Pakistan - adding to allegations that MI6 and MI5 collaborated in the arrests of many of the British residents in Guantanamo Bay.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/story.jsp?story=632488

Voice of the Prophet
United States | 8:03 | Robert Edwards

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A truly chilling example of foreshadowing, The Voice of the Prophet is an interview with Rick Rescorla, the head of security for the investment firm Morgan Stanley Dean Witter. Filmed on the 44th floor of the World Trade Center in 1998, Rescorla details the future of warfare long before Osama bin Laden became America's Most Wanted.
A retired Army colonel, veteran of combat in three wars and a survivor of the 1993 bombing of the twin towers (in which he saved the lives of hundreds of Morgan Stanley employees), Rescorla was killed in the WTC attacks of September 11, 2001. In this interview, Rescorla all but predicts the events that lead up to the September 11 attack and the war on terrorism that followed.

http://www.atomfilms.com/af/content/voice_prophet

Interrogations Faked at Guantanamo, Witness Says

Authorities at Guantanamo Bay staged interrogations of detainees for visiting politicians and generals to give the impression that valuable intelligence was regularly being gathered, according to a former Army translator at the camp.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050428/ts_nm/security_guantanamo_dc&pri
nter=1

IRAQ: Doctors warn of increasing deformities in newborn babies.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/bad5cdd6e59942ed1a0bb28fa2
8163fa.htm

Brigadier shocks and awes: there is no war on terrorism

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8690.htm