Questioning Reality: Are we for "Real"? - Page 3

Oh God Guess u didn't read the previous posts. Well, u r dependant on ur senses as ur 'proof' of your existance, but the thing is, that they are all just a bunch of electrical signals interpreted by the brain. Who knows if the brain interprets the information correctly, or if anything exist apart from these signals.
Imagine that a brain is kept alive, and is attached toa computer by wires, each going to different parts of the brain, like for sight, smell etc. The computer will then send electrical signals to the brain, and it will then think that it is a buisness man sitting in a restraut eating delicious tuna fish, or a person posting on the site captain cynic with the nick of Itisasiseeit

The technology for something like this to happen is beyond our comprehension. What you say sounds a lot like the matrix philosophy, which is interesting but impossible.

nothing is impossible. highly improbable yes, but not impossible.

reality is hard to define when it comes to terms with us, because to us, we are real, what we touch, smell, sense and see is real but we could never know for certain that the people we know and the things that are around us are in fact realistic. there are many theories to what we really are, but i think the main thing that humans should focus on, is not a futile mission to see if we're real or not, but that right here, right now, is real and we cannot afford to miss the opportunities that are real in our eyes.

None of it will matter if we don't start actively seeking the truth to the source of terror, and if we let the government strip us of individual rights and rights as a soveriegn nation. I say you'll all learn what reality is when it all goes down.

Look, I've heard some respectful comments regarding my input, and intellect, and I'm no super-genius, but the instant I actually took a day or two, a couple weeks now, to actually look into some things, well, let me put it this way, it goes from rocket science to a slap in the face real quick.

I find conspiracy theories to be as unlikely and fun, but with acceptance that nothing would surprise me (I was wrong). What I don't find fun about this 9/11 reality stuff is all the visible evidence that supports it upon any inspection. The key eventually becomes the realization that no matter what, you should at least consider forces from within our government as mandated by law for even failure, but of criminal conspiracy as well, not discounting it then investigating. Thats just common sense, to an unbiased point of view.

And just allowing the possibility created a physical sensastion in itself. I was somewhat shocked, because the idea didn't even really occur to me untill I had evidence I remembered hearing but never had strung together under a light that even allowed accusation let alone made the case for it.

The reason I was shocked is because it made the most sense. Realistically I mean. I still have trouble believing these people were capable of such things but the evidence sobers me of my delusions bias conditioning.

The war on Iraq launched the biggest ANTI-WAR rally the world has ever seen, across the globe people protested, I barely heard of it.

Our reality as known through our media is a farce, far more respectable people than all agree. Experts, witnessess, whistleblowers (people going against a lot of odds).

All the evidence. So much evidence. Just look into it. If nothing else its good for a rush, maybe a laugh.

If we don't question reality we cannot know the answers of what is real.

ya well, dats one side of interpreting the question of reality. One interpretion is 'ultimate' reality, like are we fer real etc, while another interpretion is what left wood reffered too,like did osama attack the world trade centers etc.

Well, reffering 2 da second interpretion, both r quite difficult. Most of us will probably never be able 2 know the real truth behind da war on Iraq, WMD's etc. The big politicians can twist reality to suit their means. If It is in the american government's(not people's) intereset to 'free' iraq of a 'terror', then it will do so, and will make up a reality of WMD's and terrorists, albiet real or not. If it is in the so called 'muslim' extremists interest to wage 'war' on the 'evil' west, then it will make up a reality of them being 'pagans' and 'infidels'.

I think in thez circumstances we shud adopt the policy of ''I ll c it b4 I believe it''. but again, even the realities of videos etc can be altered.
We shud all learn 2 think fer our selves. We shud not believe that the west is evil if someone says so, we shud not believe dat all muslims are terrorists if someone says so, we shud all learn 2 think by ourselves

"I think in thez circumstances we shud adopt the policy of ''I ll c it b4 I believe it''

The one problem I have with this is that most people aren't actively seeking alternative points of view and information. Which there is plenty of, even the mainstream media has reported most of it, but they just don't harp on it, tell have truths, and spin things, then tell you about J-Lo's ass all day so you don't bother asking questions.

If the people who have the ability to manipulate media and documents are allowed to do so and people wait to see it to believe it, we have a problem.

That mentality is abundant, powerless, and wrong. Wrong in terms of being deceptive. I'm not fond of the defeatest attitude towards our ability to ever know the truth. I understand this way of thinking in terms of the cosmos but we don' have to accept our government lying to us.

That is also the manufactored mentality encouraged by the media which is owned by interests other than our own.

Please don't buy into the we're a bunch of powerless sheep who need people to lie to us to protect us, if they were worried about our protection they would give us guns and access to information of who to be wary of.

We wouldn't have to hunt these people, just be aware and able to report it or defend yourself. The governments job is defense not offensive world conquest, that creates dangers not protects from them.

Look into the info, see what they themselves say and don't put up with their lies. The moment someone says you are wrong for asking questions is the moments they are probably hiding things and taking your rights. And this will only happen if we simply allow it too.

Unknowns are hard to know, this is not a question of unknowns, people know, and people are even trying to tell, but we the people aren't listening because the media isn't saying it. Because we are scared and feel weak, that alone is the sign of a bad government.

You choose your power, or lack of it, in this social arena, we always have strength in numbers.

If enough people got together and saw the obviousness and abundance of evidence they would do something, but people are not questioning because they were told not to, and they evidence implies things that they would rather not be true, but this does not change the fact that they either are true, or still might be true.

And with implications of this magnitude it is irresponsible and unnatural not to get behing asking these questions in a perfectly honest and even respectful manner.

Questions are simply tests, if something is true it has nothing to fear with being tested, there is no lack of patriotism, or common sense for asking any question, even indefinitely, but that is exactly the case if we don't.

You can't define reality. 0r 'The Meaning of Life' for a matter of fact. We as beings, human beings, must understand that everything is a just. Perhaps some things just WON'T have an explanation or a reason of cuase. Reason of existence. Ppl ask why they are here, what's their purpose in life. Well ...to live. No reason why. Just. Accept. Why go through life questioning EVERYTHING? Defining everything to the very roots of nothingness. Your seek for truth & knowledge about such a question ...is impossible. For your lifetime. So have your own belief. You decide what 'The Meaning of Life' is. 0r why we are all a part of the thin veils of illusion which creates the fabric of our existence. If anything is to answer such questions ...it'll be your mind Not you.

You must come to understand. Your mind only allows you to grasp what its senses see, or hear, or smell. your trying to see the whole picture from a bad position, one must climb attop the mountain to see past it.

Remember. The object is to escape.

" Why go through life questioning EVERYTHING? Defining everything to the very roots of nothingness. Your seek for truth & knowledge about such a question ...is impossible"

Arg! Because through questioning EVERYTHING has mankind gotten where it is today. If Aristole, Plato, Newton, Einstien, Stephan hawking and God knows how many otherz had not questioned everything becuz ppl like u wud say 'it's no use', then we wud still have bin in the middle ages. What ur saying iz that the whole concept of philosophy is wrong. cuz asking about things such as the meaning of life and what was there before the universe, is there a God, are we for real, contirbutes a significant part not only to philosphy, but to other parts of life also, including theoratical physics.
Yes therz a gud deal of a chance that we may never pricecly know the answer to questions such as these, but they help derive other answers.

Look, the thing is, when we say 'what is the meaning of life', 'are we for real', we are not saying 'I WANT THE ANSWER!!!!!' We know that is quite impossible, we are just having a interesting 'discussion'. Apart from excercising those little grey cells, they deveop in us a sense of wonder , awe and gratefulness of the world around us.

I run into the same, "why bother" mentality in discussing elements of our government and globalism that are proving over time and to this day to be quite evil.

Even if you are right why bother, what can you do about it, well that is the attitude that like not ever advancing in empirical knowledge, also in this case, allows any evil elements to thrive and bankrupt and enslave our people while sending them into retarded never ending wars.

No sane person stands up and tells a country that is a beacon of the "free world" that we are going to START and indefinite war. And lies through their teeth about why.

The questions behind this war, The PNAC plan (project for a new american century: which everyone should know about, because its why we are at war), the gross lies, inconsistencies, and sheer physical impossibilities and improbabilities of the oklahoma city bombing and 9/11 plus other events, these questions need to be asked and properly answered if we ever hope to be free or "win over evil".

This simiply brings up some of the worst theories I have ever heard. This about this question that is asked..."Are We Real?" Answer me this.
Can you use any of the five senses that have been given to you? Can you become mad, sad, or glad about something material, or something not? Do you love? Are we born and do we die? The same answer is undoubtedly there...Yes! We are real, we bleed-too much we die. We think; Consciously and Un-Consciously which does prove reality is the medium from which we percieve all. Existence is there, to prove or disbelieve is uncanny, and irrelavent. For those of you who believe we are fake, figments of others imagination, maybe our own image, please get off the internet, delete your porn
and take a step outside!!!

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Can you use any of the five senses that have been given to you?

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Five? I have six senses, must be that faith gene?

Reality is only what you make of it, only what 'you' as an individual accepts. Something real to you is not real to me; as stated the mind is the most powerful thing in the universe. Your mind only determines what you allow it to determine, so if everything is reality then nothing is impossible or improbable; only you restrict yourself to reality or existence.