Points on Religion - Page 4

no one said that the person being blamed was guilty, we're saying that the people that are "listenting" to the person they blame are.

when i hear of a mass murderer that says god made him do it... i think wow, if god can have that much of an influence on someones life, it cant be a good thing and there ya have it... god is indeed to blame, even if in an indirect way...

ok, lets say you dont believe that... lets say you're a devoted christian and god made everything and you believe in fate... god made that person, and he made him go crazy and kill people. there ya have it... gods fault in a direct way.

OF COURSE, BUT WHATS YOUR POINT?

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People may use God's name but that doesn't mean anything. I could kill people and tell them summit made me do it would that make you in anyway guilty?

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as lastresort said.

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when i hear of a mass murderer that says god made him do it... i think wow, if god can have that much of an influence on someones life, it cant be a good thing and there ya have it... god is indeed to blame, even if in an indirect way...
ok, lets say you dont believe that... lets say you're a devoted christian and god made everything and you believe in fate... god made that person, and he made him go crazy and kill people. there ya have it... gods fault in a direct way.

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well said, totally agree. The point is christianity can be fatuous. The relationship between 'God' and the individual can be violent, aggresive and extremely feebleminded.

ONCE AGAIN, YES. BUT WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE?

what the 'christian world' as a whole represents and its actions against the rest of humanity. That is what I am identifying (as mentioned above)

im trying to prove that the laws of god are not laws to be followed... nothing to do with what religion... just live your life on earth, belive in a god... sure i dont care, i believe in a god but i still have no religion, now just live your life and be free... if you contract yourself to living by a book or some higher power you'll never be free... and as all religions say "it is gods will to be free" so stop fucking contradicting yourself here.

Freedom lies within a set of boundaries. Surely if for me to live free meant that I should kill people then how can the people I kill live free?
Besides With God as my help I am free to enjoy as much peace and grace as I can take. I need not worry about employment or living space or food. How is this preventing my freedom?

what the crap did you just say?

MAYBE SO.....AND I DONT BELIEVE IN CHRISTIANITY, EXEPT I DONT KNOW OF ANY CASES WHERE A SUPPOSED "CHRISTIAN GOD" MADE SOMEONE KILL SOMEONE ELSE AND EVEN IF THERE WERE,(LIKE ETHEREAL MENTIONED) THERES NO WAY TO KNOW IF THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH,NOT ONLY THAT BUT THIS "BAD INFLUENCE" IT MIGHT HAVE ON PEOPLE MIGHT BE THERE, BUT THESE VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE NOT ENOUGH TO CLAIM CHRISTIANITY AS A WHOLE IS DESTROYING, HARMING, CORRUPTING THE REST OF HUMANITY. AND THESE CASES OF PEOPLE BEING INFLUENCED BY GOD TO KILL OR HARM PEOPLE ARE ALL OVER OTHER RELIGIONS, WERE TALKING SACRFICES AND ALL!!!!!!

AND TO SAY THAT "GOD" MADE SOMEONE GO CRAZY AND KILL PEOPLE AND TRY TO USE IT AGAINST A RELIGION IS JUST REDICULOUS!!! I BET YOU DONT EVEN BELIEVE THAT ONE!!!!

MAY YOU BE SO KIND AS TO EXPLAIN WHY?

YOU KNOW WHAT,IF THIS COUNTRY DIDN'T ALLOW THAT LADY AND HER FOLLOWERS TO TAKE PRAY&THE BIBLE OUT YOUR SCHOOLS, THIS COUNTRY WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT,BUT YOU ALLOW A WOMAN SENT BY THE DEVIL
TO TAKE GOD AND THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS AWAY FROM YOUR KIDS,THAT JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE FOR.SATAN LOVE THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE YOU ALLOW HIM, TO MAKE IT HIS PLAYGROUND.

EXCUSE ME WHEN ADDRESSING GOD; THE MAKER OF ALL THINGS,USE UPPER CASE LETTERS PLEASE.

on what evidence do you base your claim?

many people dont believe in jesus and his teachings why should they be taught about it? the reason they dont allow ANY religion to be taught in school is because its in violation of the constitutional right "freedom of religion".

daxsexx, not to sound mean, but that has to be the most narrow minded thing i've ever read.... seriously

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many people dont believe in jesus and his teachings why should they be taught about it?

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Many people do not believe in evolution either yet it is still taught.