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Blessed Are The Peace Makers - Page 3

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 60yrs • M •
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My apologies Angelfire, I tend to need the CluexFour. It did seem to be completely off your style, but I wasn't sure.

Drat it, and here I thought I had made good arguments to your sarcasm

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"Oops, it appears I have run over your dogma with my karma."
 65yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
For Patrish:

http://okcitykid.bravejournal.com/entry/11417

Though some will thank the U.S. that Saddam is behind bars, one must remember that arrangements were already being made before the war started to take Saddam out, we didn't have to go to war, and you must also remember, he hasn't been tried an executed yet. Won't you be surprised if we end up leaving Iraq with Saddam back in power. It can happen, we haven't won anything yet. The mistake we have made may be larger than we thought, lets hope not.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 57yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that Patrish is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:
I would actually make an intelligent post, but you are too stupid, fanatical and ignorant (500k conversions, my ass). Therefore I will just mock you and pray you and your children will be purged from our gene pool.



I have YET to see an intelligent post from you...so I dont want you to hurt yourself. Dont work so hard on my account....

quote:
Though some will thank the U.S. that Saddam is behind bars, one must remember that arrangements were already being made before the war started to take Saddam out, we didn't have to go to war, and you must also remember, he hasn't been tried an executed yet. Won't you be surprised if we end up leaving Iraq with Saddam back in power. It can happen, we haven't won anything yet. The mistake we have made may be larger than we thought, lets hope not.



I believe we are still there so that doesnt happen.
The ppl have voted for a leader, and it would turn into a civil war, for certain.

I believe by the droves of young and old alike, and disabled citizens getting out and celebrating democracy, prooves this is what they want.

Why should they be denied freedom, howsoever we think?

AS for Saddam getting the oust preplanned.
Of course, I showed b4 how he operated Al Queda in his country. In Baghdad he kept terrorists and gave them a place to stay.
Osama and Saddam were involved in the 93 attack..and 91.

TO disbleive this is incredulous.
However, 911 came during the Intelligence reporting.

IT was not wanted..because the plans to remove Saddam were being ready since Clinton. Unless we ignore how Desert Fox was the beginning.

ANYWAY...if war is waged against us..should we recoil, and open our doors for more...keep in mind...we have been under attack since 1979.

THIS was way way overdue. How many more lives would have to end b4 we decided to wake up?


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"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."
 38yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Angelfire is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:
I have YET to see an intelligent post from you...so I dont want you to hurt yourself. Dont work so hard on my account....

I just said, I wasn't going to make an intelligent post and no you aren't worth the effort. Learn to read, fundie.

"AS for Saddam getting the oust preplanned.
Of course, I showed b4 how he operated Al Queda in his country."
About as credible as your half a million conversions to Christianity.

"ANYWAY...if war is waged against us..should we recoil, and open our doors for more...keep in mind...we have been under attack since 1979."
Sadddam did not attack the United States.

"THIS was way way overdue. How many more lives would have to end b4 we decided to wake up?"
1k dead American soldiers, 10k dead Afghans, 100k dead Iraqis and you are still dreaming in your fantasy land.

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"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"
 65yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:
I believe by the droves of young and old alike, and disabled citizens getting out and celebrating democracy, prooves this is what they want.



The Sunni's however must not be citizens, because they didn't come out. And the disabled too - I haven't heard that.

quote:
Why should they be denied freedom, howsoever we think?


Why should they be bombed?

quote:
AS for Saddam getting the oust preplanned.
Of course, I showed b4 how he operated Al Queda in his country. In Baghdad he kept terrorists and gave them a place to stay.
Osama and Saddam were involved in the 93 attack..and 91.

TO disbleive this is incredulous.
However, 911 came during the Intelligence reporting.



those who bear false witness are doomed to go to hell - Unless ofcourse you repent - there's still time for you to do this. I only care about your soul.

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IT was not wanted..because the plans to remove Saddam were being ready since Clinton. Unless we ignore how Desert Fox was the beginning.



It is nice of you to give some credit to Clinton, but actually Russia was making arrangements to have Saddam step down. But then they would have gotten control of the oil, we couldn't have that now could we, so intead WE STARTED A WAR by bombing Iraq, killing many innocent people, who could have been saved if we let Russia complete its negotiations. We murdered innocent people to make them free - I imagine that makes perfect since to you from your warm comfy living room in front of the TV set watching your Fox news. But here, you might find some truth.

http://okcitykid.bravejournal.com/entry/11417

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ANYWAY...if war is waged against us..should we recoil, and open our doors for more...keep in mind...we have been under attack since 1979.


Oh really - I wasn't aware we were under attack. And I don't even own a gun, what am I ever going to do, oh my.

quote:
THIS was way way overdue. How many more lives would have to end b4 we decided to wake up?


KILLING PEOPLE IS WAY OVERDUE.

I know, you can't go to Iraq and fight because you're a women, but would be glad to send your children to die. You are a sick puppy.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 57yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that Patrish is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
How does one person give an entire history in one or two sentences?

Americans have ADD..attention deficit disorder.

I can point out any lengthy post as completely ignored.

Muslims assisinated Bobby Kennedy...for cripes sakes.

How far back do you need to go ?? 1979??? or the 60's?

How much are you willing to read?

How advanced are ppl in reading and comprehension to actually wake up to the time line of all the events that unfolded at even Saddam's hands..and NOT just on Americans...
but on Iraqi's.
In fact I am in a forum where a soldier is currently in Iraq...

THEY are STILL uncovering mass graves. Death toll thus far ~ far exceeds even Hitler.

But are these actions condoned by hypocrisy?

TO say when we bomb buildings it is at our hands innocent lives are destroyed?

Soldiers insist...those who are there.....that insurgents are attacking civilians. BUT you get your reports online by probably extremists anyway...so how does a closed mind absorb truths when there are prejudices??

BTW...I watch solely CBS, which was a Rather Biased station, and they showed the disabled being wheeled in to vote.
SAW it with my own eyes. Get off the prejudiced sites..and listen to the actual accounts of civilians who drop to the grounds to kiss our troops feet, thanking them for their freedoms.


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"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."
 38yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Angelfire is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:

THEY are STILL uncovering mass graves. Death toll thus far ~ far exceeds even Hitler.


OK, tell me how many bodies they have dug up.

Go on please, give me a number.

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"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"
 38yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Angelfire is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
*bump*

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"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"
 60yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that TheIrishPagan is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
'BTW...I watch solely CBS, which was a Rather Biased station, and they showed the disabled being wheeled in to vote.
SAW it with my own eyes. Get off the prejudiced sites..and listen to the actual accounts of civilians who drop to the grounds to kiss our troops feet, thanking them for their freedoms.'

You ask us basically to make an 'informed' choice concerning this subject, among others, yet you yourself have limited your information intake to a 'Rather Biased' source, which by your own definition is prejudiced. Your statement is hypercriticism at it's finest. To make a truly informed decision, about ANYTHING, one must look to multiple sources, in this case media sources from several news stations and papers, including Arabic news. To limit oneself to one media source is akin to trying to view the world through one book.

Oh wait, you do that already. So I guess it is to be expected of you, and your Fundamentalist partners. Just keep in mind, it is a Fundamental group that has attacked us.

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"Oops, it appears I have run over your dogma with my karma."
 65yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:
Muslims assisinated Bobby Kennedy...for cripes sakes.


Oh really - says who? You, and who else.

quote:
Sirhan a Christian: Assassination of Bobby Kennedy - Sirhan Bishara Sirhan, born March 19, 1944, in Jerusalem, is a Christian, not a Muslim.

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/1928

Do your homework - READ THE GOSPILS, and follow Jesus not Bush

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 57yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that Patrish is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:
The gunman, Sirhan Sirhan, not only was not a Zionist, but had been motivated in part by the sympathy between Israel and Senator (possibly President-to-be) Kennedy.
That summer of 1968 was a nervous time in the USSR and Europe, not just in the Tet-struck USA and Vietnam. Perhaps you recall that not long before the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., had been shot dead; Czechoslovakia, under the Dubèek régime, was experimenting with a humane socialism (and scaring Brezhnev); according to the rumors we could hear in Siberia, it seemed likely that that was to be the last summer of capitalism in Paris ... and yet, plus ça change, plus nothing changed!



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2. SIRHAN SIRHAN IS TOP SUSPECT IN KIBBUTZ ATTACK
Security sources say the primary suspect in the Kibbutz Metzer terror attack is Sirhan Sirhan. Sirhan is from the same clan, and the namesake of Sirhan Sirhan, who shot dead Senator Robert Kennedy in the 1960s.

According to Israel Radio, he is a member of Fatah's Tanzim, and is from the Tulkarm refugee camp. Two of his family members were questioned. The Palestinian who was believed to have dispatched Sirhan is Muhammad Naefa, who had close ties to European envoys and is believed to have received money from Yasser Arafat. (Jerusalem Post)


Pardon, I failed to mention he was under the principle of jihad terrorism.


quote:
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith,
but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America,
and Islam the only accepted religion on earth"

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998


Qur'an 8:12 'I shall terrorize the infidels.
So wound their bodies and incapacitate them
because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.'

Qur'an 8:57 'If you gain mastery over them in battle,
inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them,
so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.'



TORTURE OF AMERICANS BY ISLAMIC
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/files/bodysmall2.jpg

AMERICANS ON A BRIDGE IN FALLUJA BY ISLAMIC
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/files/bodysmall1.jpg

quote:
The War for Infinite Justice MUST BE ESCALATED


================= EXHIBIT 5 ================

PARTIAL LIST OF ISLAMIC TERRORIST ACTIVITIES

1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
1972 Munich Olympics Sep-5,1972 (Black September)
1976 Entebbe Hostage Crisis, June 27, 1976
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, Nov. 4, 1979 444 days
1979 Grand Mosque Seizure, Nov 20,1979
1981 Assassination of Egyptian President, Oct 6,1981
1982 Assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister, Sept 14, 1982
1983 Bombing of US Embassy in Beirut6, April 18,1983
1983 Bombing of Maring Barricks, Beruit, Oct 23,1983
1984 Hizballah Restaurant Bombing, April 12,1984
1985 Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Nov 23,1985
1985 Rome Airport murders
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, Homacidal maniac lived in saddams Iraq
1986 Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered
1988 Berlin Discoteque Bombing, Dec 21,1988
1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered
2001 Flight 93 murders
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait
2002 Washington D.C. sniper
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured
2002 August Hotel bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia. 12 dead, dozens injured.
2003 Rusian concert bombing
2003 Phillipines airport and market bombing
2003 Foiled SAM plot in the USA
2003 UN Baghdad HQ Bombing
on and on and on and on their terrorism has gone .........



http://www.goodspeedupdate.com/wtc/images/091201_agony_03.jpg

Russia at Beslan.

http://www.newsindex.com/images/russia/photo21.jpg
http://www.newsindex.com/images/russia/photo19.jpg
http://www.newsindex.com/images/russia/photo5.jpg

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=========== Documents linking Atta, Saddam, Nidal, bin Ladin ===========

Handwritten letter dated Feb. 19, 1998 linking bin Laden and Saddam Hussein
discussing arrival of a secret envoy sent by bin Laden to Iraq.
The signature beneath the letter is a codename, "MDA" - the Mukhabarat.



http://www.thestar.com/images/thestar/img/030427_irk_document_250.jpg

As for Sirhan's religion...
quote:
Religiously, his doctrines changed often, the ones holding the longest interest being Baptist, Seventh Day Adventism and several forms of occultism.

"As an alien, Sirhan did not have the right to vote in America," Moldea says. "Although he felt strongly about the Middle East situation and expressed the belief that he was 'disenfranchised from the American establishment,' Sirhan did not belong to a political party. But (it appeared that he) supported the Baath Party, which operated in the Middle East."



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"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."
 60yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that TheIrishPagan is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
These acts you mention were commited by Islamic Fundamentalists, you know, like Christian Fundamentalists

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"Oops, it appears I have run over your dogma with my karma."
 57yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that Patrish is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
The term is called extremist.

AND those are the ones I forementioned about.....EXTREMISTS.

However, this is why we have a WAR!!!!
AS was asked by Okcity...why I condone it...it is not condoning, it is a defensive war.

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"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."
 60yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that TheIrishPagan is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
And what classification would you give to people like Pat Robertson, Fallwell, Rushdooney, the Moral Majority and the Christain Coalition?

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"Oops, it appears I have run over your dogma with my karma."
 57yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that Patrish is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I do NOT follow them.

The Pope leads my religion.

AS for 'invincible ignorance'...as long as they follow Christ they do well.
I dont classify unless as in extremists.
WHO are attacking our country..and others like Russia.

BUT I assure you...as long as leaders of religion
teach others to preserve life then they do well.




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